B The Way Forward Gets Real About AI, Failure, and Overcoming

The stories that define the tech industry are those that take a look at the hard truths. 

That’s where B The Way Forward comes in. Our podcast brings you honest, challenging, and forward-looking conversations with those who are actively reshaping tech, from the inside out and the outside in. 

In every episode, we spotlight real people navigating complex realities: AI’s rapid rise, systemic bias at work, the slow burn of career fatigue, and what it takes to build a more impartial, sustainable future in tech. 

Whether you’re new to the podcast or just looking to catch up, here are four standout episodes from Season 2 you don’t want to miss. 

 

1. Is AI Going to Take My Job? How Workers are Fighting to Protect Their Careers 

 

“There’s no putting the AI genie back in the bottle…” 

This episode dives deep into one of the most pressing questions in tech today: how do we protect human creativity and labor in an era of rapid AI disruption? 

From the rise of generative tools to the ethical gray areas of data scraping, the conversation goes beyond fear and into action—highlighting real efforts to build a future where tech empowers rather than erases human work. 

Featured Guests: 

Dr. Moiya McTier — Astrophysicist, folklorist, and science communicator 

  • “The way that these AI algorithms work is that they’re essentially pattern recognizers…They need a lot of data to be able to identify those patterns. I’m talking hundreds of millions of songs.” 
  • “As long as we can make sure that the AI algorithms are developed with consent… and that those artists are then credited and compensated, then people should be able to use those algorithms to enhance their art however they want.” 

Cissy Jones — Award-winning voiceover artist and founder of EthoVox 

  • “We made this framework for how voiceover and AI could coexist…And then we figured, if not us, then who?” 
  • “AI is only going to get better, but we have to plant a stake in the ground and say, this is where we exist, and this is how we can work together.” 

Listen Now: https://anitab.org/b-the-way-forward/is-ai-going-to-steal-my-job/  

 

2. The Environmental Impact of Your Chatbot Habit – Why it Might Be Time to Say Bye to the AI 

 

What does your ChatGPT prompt really cost the planet? 

It turns out, those quick queries and clever replies come with a hidden price: a hefty environmental footprint. From energy-hungry data centers to the rare metals powering our machines, AI is far from “invisible”—and its climate cost is mounting fast. 

This episode peels back the curtain on the resource-intensive reality of AI and challenges us to think bigger: How do we ensure emerging tech aligns with environmental justice? 

Featured Guests: 

Dr. Sasha Luccioni — Climate & AI Researcher at Hugging Face 

  • “We think of AI as this ephemeral entity… but the tools we use run on big computers in data centers powered by oil, gas, even coal.” 
  • “Technology’s not very transparent; AI even less so. And when big tech companies present it as magic, a lot of questions magically disappear.” 

Yoca Arditi-Rocha — Executive Director, CLEO Institute 

  • “AI could be a climate hero or a villain depending on how we ensure transparency, accountability, and how we source the energy it needs.” 
  • “Citizens can’t demand accountability if they don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes. That’s where policy and regulation must step in.” 

Listen Now: https://anitab.org/b-the-way-forward/the-environmental-impact-of-ai/  

 

3. When Your Dream Job Becomes a Nightmare – What April Christina Curley Learned From Being Let Go 

 

April was hired to build change—then punished for trying. 

In this raw and powerful episode, April Christina Curley shares the story of being recruited to diversify one of the world’s most powerful tech companies, only to be pushed out for challenging the very systems she was brought in to change. 

What unfolds is a story of corporate disillusionment, deep personal loss, and unshakable conviction. 

Featured Guest: April Christina Curley — DEI Advocate, Speaker, and Truth-Teller 

  • “If I could go back and change things… I wouldn’t. I would do exactly what I’ve done—maybe even with more oomph in Baltimore, to be honest.” 
  • “Start with your core values. From there, you should be able to understand what your responsibility is in this fight.” 

Listen Now: https://anitab.org/b-the-way-forward/april-christina-curley-lessons-learned/  

 

4. Seeing Things Through (Even When You Think You Failed) – Karen Catlin, Author, Better Allies® 

 

From a VP title to $17K a year—and back again, on her own terms. 

This episode charts the deeply personal and professional reinvention of Karen Catlin. Once a VP at Adobe, Karen left corporate life to pursue a calling: helping more women rise in tech. What followed wasn’t instant success—it was fear, self-doubt, and financial struggle. But it was also the beginning of something much bigger. 

Featured Guest: Karen Catlin — Author, Better Allies® 

  • “I’ve walked away from a very financially lucrative job. I’ve set this goal for myself and I can’t even earn a tiny portion of it. It’s like—what have I done?” 
  • “We start playing the ‘What if this goes wrong?’ game. Of course, we should be playing the ‘What if this goes right?’ game too.” 

Listen Now: https://anitab.org/b-the-way-forward/seeing-things-through-karen-catlin/  

 

Tune In + Stay Inspired 

These episodes capture exactly what B The Way Forward is all about: honest conversations, bold perspectives, and a community of changemakers reshaping the future of tech. From personal resilience to systemic reform, each story is a reminder that progress starts with truth, and that no one drives change alone. 

Subscribe to B The Way Forward wherever you get your podcasts: 

  1. B The Way Forward on Spotify 
  2. B The Way Forward on Apple 

Stay tuned—Season 2 has more powerful stories to come. 

Let these voices challenge, inspire, and remind you: the future of tech includes you. Donate to AnitaB.org today to help us continue in our mission. 

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