Maybe These Systems Shouldn’t Exist –
Dr. Timnit Gebru Asks the Questions Others Won’t – Part II

The Way Forward Podcast Episode

In part two of our conversation, Dr. Gebru continues to challenge the status quo of artificial intelligence, highlighting how current systems are often designed to encourage overtrust, putting users at risk of “automation bias.” She discusses the ethical failures of Big Tech, particularly in the neglect of marginalized languages and communities, and shares her work building a federation of small language technology organizations that prioritize local expertise, ethical data use, and shared economic opportunity over profit-driven, one-size-fits-all models. 

Dr. Gebru also reflects on the broader harms of unchecked AI: environmental damage, the erosion of critical thinking, and the marginalization of vulnerable communities. She stresses that systemic change through policy, regulation, and community-driven alternatives is essential, rather than placing the burden on individual users. Ending on a hopeful note, she shares the story of a small Māori radio station that developed its own language technology to preserve cultural identity, showing how grassroots innovation can offer a powerful path forward. 

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